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  Does enforced shunning violate free will?

  by poopie in

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  John Free

  While pale emperor is correct in terms of 'relatives' it is enforced shunning in terms of every friend you ever had-for born-ins. Causing the undue influence which limits ones freedom. Only religion with its constitutional protections would be allowed to exert such pressure on humans.

  jwfacts.com -Shepherd the Flock of God (2011) shows that associating with a disfellowshipped nonrelative continues as a disfellowshipping offence by including such association under the categorization of brazen conduct.

  "Though this is not an exhaustive list, brazen conduct may be involved in the following if the wrongdoer has an insolent, contemptuous attitude made evident by a practice of these things:

  Willful, continued, unnecessary association with disfellowshipped nonrelatives despite repeated counsel." p.60
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  Cart Witnessing On Their Wedding Day

  by pale.emperor in

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  this photo is doing the rounds on jw inspirational on instagram.

  although the brothers and sisters think this is "oh so amazing" and "so cool" it's actually very sad and quite shocking.

  what, people cant even enjoy their wedding day without the cult invading their special day.

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  Unsurprising really, I've know some couples preach 'where the need is greater' for their 'honeymoon'...pretty sad life lol...this brothers face is saying 'I'm finally allowed to have sex...and guess what we're fucking doing'...
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  Is it possible to decline preaching in the carts?

  by Skepsis in

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  hi folks,.

  i have a difficult dilemma.

  since i'm not pioneering any more, i'm reducing my hours wasted at that artifact known as cart or trolley.

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  Get a full time Job- just like the elduhs, or fill your time with other commitments college etc...'sorry brothers I'd love to do it but just like you I'm working'
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  If the WT is a "money making machine"...who gets the money?

  by NikL in

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  i've seen claims over the years that wt is in the real estate, book publishing business and is a for profit enterprise at it's core.. can those of you that believe this to be the case tell me who benefits from all this wealth?.

  the governing body lives in relatively humble conditions no?.

  i've been curious about this for a while.

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  And there's the holiday homes...err I mean translation offices...

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/279555/wts-buys-ps1-000-000-luxury-sea-front-property-wales-uk/amp?page=16&size=10
  
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  Greetings and would like some advice about a potentially fun idea

  by towerwatcher in

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  hello fellow apostates!

  my first post and a long time lurker here.

  i would like to thank all of you for the existence of this board as this has been instrumental for me in leaving the place i once knew as "the truth".

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  Found it, halfway down page:

  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/misquotes-deception-lies.php
  
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  Greetings and would like some advice about a potentially fun idea

  by towerwatcher in

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  hello fellow apostates!

  my first post and a long time lurker here.

  i would like to thank all of you for the existence of this board as this has been instrumental for me in leaving the place i once knew as "the truth".

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  Didn't WT plagiarise a picture from a German Porno\lads magazine?- its in the live forever book. I remember being absolutely shocked by this fact.
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  Guilt-Tripping Questions In Today's Text! (And My Replies To These Questions) 

  by Divergent in

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  thursday, december 8. take your stand against him, firm in the faith.—1 pet.

  5:9.. to do that, we need to prepare our mind and heart, to train ourselves now to do what is right.

  we do not know what our spiritual warfare may involve in the future.

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  Oh for God's sake not another self examination! The guilt trip is the icing on the cake. I feel sorry for the personality types that can't switch off to this conditioning and will spend the rest of the day examining themselves and getting depressed because praying to Cinderella or Jehovah or the cookie monster has no effect.
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  My presentation (new one here!)

  by Skepsis in

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  i registered in the board and i wanted to present myself.. i used to visit this forum some time ago and even register an account but then i tried to convince myself all was ok in the congregation.

  now, i'm coming back :).

  i live in a southern european nation, i'm a young jw, a good example in the congregation serving as a regular pioneer and ms. for all in the congregation i'm the good guy, one of the best examples in the area i live.

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  Hello Skepsis and welcome.

  Congratulations on waking up. You have been mistaking a controlling cycle of cult indoctrination for a spiritual feeding program from on high. That's the mistake of a lifetime Skepsis, the sooner it can be rectified the better. Leaving was one of the most stressful times in my life but looking back I feel I am finally living life my way and that's just great. Personally I couldn't imagine having to pioneer for 5 months just because of what others think of me but at the same time I've heard of others who have made a massive success of a slow fade waking loved ones up in the process. So I guess my only advice is don't let fear hold you back from living your life your way.

  Cheers
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  EXPOSED: The insular world of Israeli Jehovah's Witnesses

  by darkspilver in

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  there's been discussion on this forum about the wt's preaching campaigns in israel - here's an interesting article with pictures.

  a rare glimpse into the insular world of israeli jehovah's witnesses.

  the state refuses to recognize them and they have been victims of harassment.

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  I wonder if Yarden was taught about how antisemitic WT was in the Rutherford era? I wonder if his adoption of JW beliefs would have been so smooth if he had laid his eyes on Rutherford's letter to Hitler?

  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/hitler-nazi.php
  
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  You know it's time to give up the JW religion when your route call tells you to

  by jambon1 in

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  lasting memory of the latter period of time in the organisation:.

  i had a route call with the magazines whom i'd called on for a number of years.

  eventually when i become a parent i became consumed with negativity, doubt (blood issue) & depression.

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  Nice story, I bet this very nice person wondered what became of you, did you ever get to see her again?